 Re: YAMAHA R1 2009 No engine data ? |
Here is a little log from a short ride I did 2 days ago,the rpms are 15% off ( 1000 rpms off at 8.000 approximately) and IAP might not be accurate as this is my first attempt at logging this bike and I was not very thorough with calibrating the sensors...
I don't know the exact crank sensor teeth but judging from the log it should have ~20 teeth. Thw funny thing is I made some corrections and went for another ride but the laptop now won't read the new or the yesterdays logs... Happened in the past after software update and now the same shit... 
I don't know if I'm supposed to laugh or cry but this is getting ridicolous,neither of my 2 pc's will read the logs from the Denso logbox... So development will have to wait
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| Re: YAMAHA R1 2009 No engine data ? |
I'm on the same boat here with the 07-08 R1,but there is a way to log data with the logbox pro,we just need Justin to make a new Analog to Digital harness just like he did for the gen1 Busa.
R1s from 2007 have electronic controlled throttle blades,with their own TPS. When you open the throttle ( yamaha calls it Accelerator) you actually give a command to the ECU ( through a throttle position sensor which we will call APS from now on) how fast you want to go. How much throttle blades will open,that's not your business .
You need to tap to the "throttle blades TPS" signal wire and configure it manually through the AD inputs. Mine was 0.55V Volts for closed throttle and 4.1 Volts fro fully open. To measure that I first flashed the ECU and changed the ETV maps in neutral,to be 0% for 0% APS and 100% for 100% APS. So with the bike in neutral-ignition switch & kill switch ON-bike in neutral-engine off, when you open the throttle, the throttle blades actually open 100% too. 
I also taped into the crankshaft sensor ( grey wire in R1 07-08) and configured it as "rising edge",I entered 23 teeth and it seems to be pretty close with the bikes tachometer,but I need to confirm how many teeth the wheel has.
This give me the ability to log TPSvsRPM AFR,and indeed I took the bike for a ride around the block and it logs fine. Now,the problem is that I don't know how the vaccum (IAP) map works. I'll try to log both IAP and SAP sensors to see if the software "understands" that and gives me any data in the vaccum map.
I also don't know if the cell tracer works with analog data. What I haven't figured out yet is how to log what gear is selected. I could log the speed sensor and determine what gear I'm in based on RPM/SPEED but I don't know if WRT can do this automatically.
Yes you can use the AD inputs on the Log Box Pro, and attach these to the various sensor points on the bike, The AD harness we have for the Gen 1 busa will work on the R1.
For gear it could be possible to attach the Gear Position sensor voltage to an AD input, but the conversion formula could be difficult to represent, but you would certainly be able to visual determine what gear the bike is in, in the data viewer. |
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| Re: YAMAHA R1 2009 No engine data ? |
| There is no diagnostic connection on the Yamaha models so we are not able to provide engine data. It is unfortunate that Yamaha did not provide any way to monitor the engine data parameters on these models.
Yamahas have a "diagnostic tool" embeded in the gauges.You can actually spark the coils and open the injectors to see if they are working properly by presssing buttons on the gauges,so that's probably the reason they don't have a diagnostic port.
But probably you could extract the data going from the ECU the gauges? |
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| Re: YAMAHA R1 2009 No engine data ? |
| I'm on the same boat here with the 07-08 R1,but there is a way to log data with the logbox pro,we just need Justin to make a new Analog to Digital harness just like he did for the gen1 Busa.
R1s from 2007 have electronic controlled throttle blades,with their own TPS. When you open the throttle ( yamaha calls it Accelerator) you actually give a command to the ECU ( through a throttle position sensor which we will call APS from now on) how fast you want to go. How much throttle blades will open,that's not your business .
You need to tap to the "throttle blades TPS" signal wire and configure it manually through the AD inputs. Mine was 0.55V Volts for closed throttle and 4.1 Volts fro fully open. To measure that I first flashed the ECU and changed the ETV maps in neutral,to be 0% for 0% APS and 100% for 100% APS. So with the bike in neutral-ignition switch & kill switch ON-bike in neutral-engine off, when you open the throttle, the throttle blades actually open 100% too.
I also taped into the crankshaft sensor ( grey wire in R1 07-08) and configured it as "rising edge",I entered 23 teeth and it seems to be pretty close with the bikes tachometer,but I need to confirm how many teeth the wheel has.
This give me the ability to log TPSvsRPM AFR,and indeed I took the bike for a ride around the block and it logs fine. Now,the problem is that I don't know how the vaccum (IAP) map works. I'll try to log both IAP and SAP sensors to see if the software "understands" that and gives me any data in the vaccum map.
I also don't know if the cell tracer works with analog data. What I haven't figured out yet is how to log what gear is selected. I could log the speed sensor and determine what gear I'm in based on RPM/SPEED but I don't know if WRT can do this automatically. |
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| Re: YAMAHA R1 2009 No engine data ? |
| There is no diagnostic connection on the Yamaha models so we are not able to provide engine data. It is unfortunate that Yamaha did not provide any way to monitor the engine data parameters on these models. |
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| Re: YAMAHA R1 2009 No engine data ? |
| Very short answer mate - no. There is no engine data for any of the R1's yet. You can flash the maps and whatever settings you see in the software - but you cant log or see engine data. Justin says that theres just no way to get it out of the ECU.
Justin says its possible on the new 2015 R1 and thats what hes working on now so thats about all you're going to get Im afraid.
viewtopic.php?f=18&t=2523
I too had an older 2012 R1 - but the problem for me went away about 4 weeks ago when it was stolen. |
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| Re: YAMAHA R1 2009 No engine data ? |
| A basic response in case it is simple.
Firstly you have a Log Box or Log Box Pro? These are the variants that can log data with.
To log on a LB or LBP the switch must be in the centre Data Logging position and the computer NOT connected via USB. In this position and the computer connected, the computer "sees" the SD card as a mass storage device and the LB or LBP will not log.
To see and record data on your computer, the switch must be in the Engine Data position, computer connected via USB and click on the Engine Data tab in the WRT software. If you want to record, then click on the record button. |
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| Re: YAMAHA R1 2009 No engine data ? |
| No respons ??? |
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| YAMAHA R1 2009 No engine data ? |
| I have no engine data on a R1 2009, the ECU number is not on the list but I can still flash the ECU.
These are the ECU reference
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