Re: Hayabusa Gen 1 flashing error, Woolich |
| This problem has been resolved, the original Woolich Racing Suzuki Bench Flashing Harness Type 1 has to be re-configured to use it with the 2002-2007 Hayabusa. I have posed full instructions on the following forum post
http://www.woolichracing.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1878 |
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Re: Hayabusa Gen 1 flashing error, Woolich |
| It no big deal now that I go it all working on the gen 1 ecu. I plan on getting more flashing equipment to do the older Suzuki bikes along with Yamaha and Kawasaki ecu. |
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Re: Hayabusa Gen 1 flashing error, Woolich |
| I will update when i receive the ECU and do some testing. Thanks for working with me to get it resolved. |
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Re: Hayabusa Gen 1 flashing error, Woolich |
| I would like to know why it's not working also. I have spent some time and money trying to get this gen 1 ecu flashed. |
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Re: Hayabusa Gen 1 flashing error, Woolich |
| I have used it to flash Gen 1 hayabusa ECU's before, that is what was used to develop the flashing protocol code in WRT. And It works with all the earlier Suzuki ECU's which are exactly the same processor and flashing protocol, including the 03-04 GSX-R 1000 virtually the same ECU (same plugs etc). I dont have a gen 1 ECU here at the moment but i have one on its was as i really want to get to the bottom of this issue. |
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Re: Hayabusa Gen 1 flashing error, Woolich |
| I got a gen 1 flasher with bench flashing harness from Boost by Smith and it flashed without any problems. I don't think the gen 2 flasher with your harness will flash a gen 1 ecu. |
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Re: Hayabusa Gen 1 flashing error, Woolich |
| I think it may be a difference in the wiring of the original Boost By Smith interface and the Woolich Racing USB Interface. I have asked RansomT to try swapping 2 wires (pin 14 and 32) on the Woolich Racing Suzuki Bench Harness Type 1, so we will see what he comes back with. |
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Re: Hayabusa Gen 1 flashing error, Woolich |
| Perhaps jumping a few of the grounds or connecting it to the same ground pin as the bike harness would net different results. The internal grounds may not be all tied together as suspected. |
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Re: Hayabusa Gen 1 flashing error, Woolich |
| I would like to get to the bottom of this, RansomT I will send you an email. |
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Re: Hayabusa Gen 1 flashing error, Woolich |
| I've never been able to bench flash a Gen 1 ECU using the WoolichRacing bench flash harness with the Boost by Smith Gen 2 unit. I've been forced just to install them on my Gen 1 Busa and flash using using the Boost by Smith Gen 1 unit. |
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Re: Hayabusa Gen 1 flashing error, Woolich |
| I just confirmed there is nothing wrong with my gen 2 flasher. I just flashed my gen 2 ecu on my bike and it runs. I followed the directions and it failed again. I think I might have to send my flasher and gen 1 harness to you to test.
I am testing my gen 2 interface using the link you provided earlier to test the interface. I have 5 volts on all pins using pin 8 as the ground. Pins 1, 3, 4 and 7 all have 5 volts with switch in flash position. Then there is power (5 volts) on pins 1 and 4 with switch in data position, is that correct?
Yes the tests seem good, and its working to flash a gen 2 so the interface and harness wont be the problem i suspect its the ECU. You can send it to us if you would like us to try flashing it but i suspect we will have the same result. i.e. the ECU may be faulty and not be able to be flashed... |
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Re: Hayabusa Gen 1 flashing error, Woolich |
Yes it should work ok, the flashing protocol for the gen 1 is pretty straight forward, just needs 5v on the FWE pin before ECU is powered with 12v to put the ECU into flashing mode.
Please ensure you follow these steps Writing to an ECU
I never really looked into it. Learn something new all of the time. i think I can reduce the amount of items I need to carry along in the race trailer by 1 flashing interface.  |
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Re: Hayabusa Gen 1 flashing error, Woolich |
| I just confirmed there is nothing wrong with my gen 2 flasher. I just flashed my gen 2 ecu on my bike and it runs. I followed the directions and it failed again. I think I might have to send my flasher and gen 1 harness to you to test.
I am testing my gen 2 interface using the link you provided earlier to test the interface. I have 5 volts on all pins using pin 8 as the ground. Pins 1, 3, 4 and 7 all have 5 volts with switch in flash position. Then there is power (5 volts) on pins 1 and 4 with switch in data position, is that correct? |
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Re: Hayabusa Gen 1 flashing error, Woolich |
| Yes it should work ok, the flashing protocol for the gen 1 is pretty straight forward, just needs 5v on the FWE pin before ECU is powered with 12v to put the ECU into flashing mode.
Please ensure you follow these steps Writing to an ECU |
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Re: Hayabusa Gen 1 flashing error, Woolich |
| Hi John, this is not the case with the Woolich Racing Gen 1 products, we have designed our Gen 1 Harnesses to work with the USB Interface and Log Box.
methyman I will send you an email, I would like to help you get this working.
Good point Justin.
As far as I know though, the original "Boost By Smith" box for GEN2 flashing still won't function with a GEN1 (or maybe it will, I've never physically tried re-wiring it) |
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Re: Hayabusa Gen 1 flashing error, Woolich |
| Hi John, this is not the case with the Woolich Racing Gen 1 products, we have designed our Gen 1 Harnesses to work with the USB Interface and Log Box.
methyman I will send you an email, I would like to help you get this working. |
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Re: Hayabusa Gen 1 flashing error, Woolich |
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Im not sure if the Boost By Smith Gen2 interface is the problem with the Woolich Gen 1 harness. Any ideas. This is driving me nuts!
Are you trying to use a GEN2 interface to flash a GEN1 ECU? If so, that is the problem. The interfaces are different for GEN1 and GEN2. Not interchangable. |
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Re: Hayabusa Gen 1 flashing error, Woolich |
| I had same trouble with two 2003 gen 1 ecu's that we had to take off to try to flash that failed. I purchased another one with the same ecu number to have for me to test on so I didn't have to have them come back every time I want to try flashing again. These guys ride there bikes every day. The flasher setup I have doesn't work on gen 1 ecu's on all three different gen 1 ecu's. |
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Re: Hayabusa Gen 1 flashing error, Woolich |
| Are you able to test with a different ECU. As i mentioned in one of my previous posts, i have seen a couple of gen 1 hayabusa ECU's which just wont flash via the main ECU plug. If you can test on a different ECU then it will allow us to determine if it is the ECU or something else. |
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Re: Hayabusa Gen 1 flashing error, Woolich |
| Thank you for answering question. I did as you said but getting same message
Clock Frequency = 10.0000MHz, Clock Mode = 0, CKM = 4, and CKP = 2
Connecting to device 'SH/7052F' on 'COM4'
Configuration:
'BOOT Mode' connection - using emulated interface
Opening port 'COM4' ...
Loading Comms DLL
Loaded Comms DLL
Initiating BOOT SCI sequence
Attempting 9600
Attempting 4800
Attempting 2400
Attempting 1200
Error No 15024: Boot failed
I tried the Woolich Software and get this message.
Failed to Sync Baud Rate, please turn power supply/ignition off, move interface to center position then back to flashing position (Red led on) then turn power supply/ignition back on again and try to write again.
Im not sure if the Boost By Smith Gen2 interface is the problem with the Woolich Gen 1 harness. Any ideas. This is driving me nuts! |
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Re: Hayabusa Gen 1 flashing error, Woolich |
| Hi
sorry i missed this question.
You need to turn the power to the ECU off then back on before you flash the gen 1 (and earlier GSX-R ECU's), this puts the ECU into flashing mode. So the correct process is
1) Connect Harness to ECU
2) Connect Harness to Interface
3) Connect Interface to computer via USB Cable
4) Put Interface in Flashing Mode (Red Led On)
5) Power on ECU
6) Write (Flash) ECU
then if you are going to do further flashes in the one session, you need to turn the power to the ECU off then back on before writing again.
Yes of course we have used the WRT software to flash Gen 1 ECU's as well as many other earlier model GSX-R's and other Suzuki's which use the same flashing protocol as the Gen 1. |
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Re: Hayabusa Gen 1 flashing error, Woolich |
| Justin why no response to my question? |
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Re: Hayabusa Gen 1 flashing error, Woolich |
| I hope nothing is wrong with the flasher. I'm going to hook to my gen 2 and see if I can read data. I bought a gen1 ecu to play with off eBay and hopefully it will flash. I have at least 6 gen 1's that want there ecu's flashed. I will keep you informed on the out come. Boost by Smith says the ecu power needs to be off then on. In his online tutorial it doesn't say the power to the ecu needs to be off when you first flash it, which I didn't do. I will have to try that and see idiot works. Have you flashed a gen 1 successfully using your software? I can't get the Woolich software to flash a gen1 ecu.
Matthew |
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Re: Hayabusa Gen 1 flashing error, Woolich |
| As i mentioned a few posts back, i have a gen 1 ecu sitting on the bench next to me, that will not allow a connection via the main ECU plugs. It works fine in the bike but for some reason it will not allow flashing through any method... it is very very rare and probably indicates something blown in the flashing circuit. |
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Re: Hayabusa Gen 1 flashing error, Woolich |
| I did follow the link and was able to do the last two test due to not having the ecu. The Test interface passed, and the other test all passed also. Woolich Racing have you ever flashed a gen1 ecu and have this problem?
Thanks
Matthew |
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Re: Hayabusa Gen 1 flashing error, Woolich |
| I have not done the test yet but I will later today and post back results.
Thanks
Matthew |
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Re: Hayabusa Gen 1 flashing error, Woolich |
| Sorry if i may have asked you this already, but have you completed the tests on the following forum post, they are relevant for the original boost by smith interface as well.
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1738
I have seen a couple of ECU's that would not communicate, i have one sitting next to my desk, the ECU works fine in the bike but it will not allow programming via the main connectors. |
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Re: Hayabusa Gen 1 flashing error, Woolich |
| Its has 5.05 volts with the switch on flash and 4.09 with it switch on engine data. |
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Re: Hayabusa Gen 1 flashing error, Woolich |
| Please ensure you are getting 4.5-5v at pin 32 as this is required before the ECU is powered by 12v to put the ECU into flashing mode. |
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Re: Hayabusa Gen 1 flashing error, Woolich |
| There is 12.24 volts coming out of ecu connector. Is there a schematic for the ecu connector on what pins do what to flash the ecu? I had trying unplugging the power to the ecu just like the tutorial but still get the same error. |
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Re: Hayabusa Gen 1 flashing error, Woolich |
| When you are hooking everything up, please ensure that you have the USB interface and bench harness connected to the computer before powering on the 12v to the ECU. |
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Re: Hayabusa Gen 1 flashing error, Woolich |
| I keep getting this error code with Boost by Smith Gen 2 flasher with Woolich gen 1 harness adapter. What am I doing wrong?
This is an unsupported freeware version
FDT API initialised: version 3, 07, 00, 007
Clock Frequency = 10.0000MHz, Clock Mode = 0, CKM = 4, and CKP = 2
Connecting to device 'SH/7052F' on 'COM3'
Configuration:
'BOOT Mode' connection - using emulated interface
Opening port 'COM3' ...
Loading Comms DLL
Loaded Comms DLL
Initiating BOOT SCI sequence
Attempting 9600
Attempting 4800
Attempting 2400
Attempting 1200
Error No 15024: Boot failed |
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Re: Hayabusa Gen 1 flashing error, Woolich |
| I finally was able to download 3.07 and then it updated to 4.00. Then used the video tutorial by Boost by Smith that helped a great deal.
http://www.boostbysmith.com/Videos/ecuvideo2.wmv |
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Hayabusa Gen 1 flashing error, Woolich |
| Hopefully you can help with this problem that I get when trying to flash a gen 1 ecu, 2002-2007.
FDT.exe not found, please install from www.renesas.com/fdt. Only versions 3.07, 4.00, 4.01, 4.04 tested.
I went and tried but there are only updates on that sight. I guess a full version is need to work. Using the Woolich software I get a connection error with bench flashing connector and power going to ecu. Any ides?
Failed to Sync Baud Rate, please turn power supply/ignition off, move interface to center position then back to flashing position (Red led on) then turn power supply/ignition back on again and try to write again.
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